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Topic: Lucifer

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Satan and Lucifer Not the Same: Repeat caller asks to again present her opinion that Satan and Lucifer are the same character. Recommended lecture; Spiritual Warfare-Origins of Satan.

Satan and Lucifer being the Same: Caller tries again to prove that Satan is being referred to in Ezekiel 28. Lecture recommended; Spiritual Warfare-Origin of Satan.

Lucifer & Satan Controversy: Caller tries to make a case for Lucifer being Satan. Lecture recommended; "Spiritual Warfare-Origin of Satan." Continues after the break. [Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28:12-19, Luke 10:18, Revelation 12:9-11]. (Steve continues talking about this subject after the break even though he doesn't indicate he was going to.)

Satan and Lucifer Not the Same: Since I heard you say that Lucifer and Satan are not the same, how so?

The Morning Star (Lucifer): Could you help me understand the use of the title, "The Morning Star" n (Lucifer)? [Revelation 22, Isaiah 14:12, Isaiah 14:5, 2 Peter 1:19, I Thessalonians 4, Revelation 1:1, Daniel 2:37].

Satan is Lucifer Proven by Scriptural Parallels: Doesn't it seem like the part where scripture says "fallen from heaven" correspond to the Revelation verse where he "fell like lightening", thereby proving that Lucifer and Satan are the same being? [Isaiah 14:12-17, Matthew 11:23. Obadiah 1:4, Luke 10:18].

If Lucifer is Not Satan: Who is being referred to if Lucifer is not Satan? [Isaiah 4, Isaiah 14:12-22, Daniel 4].
More about Satan: What lecture should one listen to at the website in order to learn more about spiritual warfare? Recommended Topical Lecture; Spiritual Warfare.

Who is Satan: Who is this guy, Satan? [John 8:44, I John 3:8, Proverbs 16:4, Isaiah 14:12, Luke 10:18, Revelation 12:7-10, Ezekiel 14:12, John 12:31, Proverbs 16:4].

Lucifer & Satan: Do you think that Lucifer is Satan? [Isaiah 14:12].

The Predestined & The Elect: Could you help me understand "the predestined" and "the elect"? [John 15, Luke 19:10].
Satan Lucifer: Is Satan the Lucifer, and was he an archangel? [2 Peter 1:19].

Satan's Fall: Is Isaiah 14 referring to Satan? If not, what do you think happened when a third of the angels fell? [Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14:12, Revelation 2:4, Daniel 8:10, Daniel 12:3, 2 Peter 2:4, Jude 1:6].

Evil in Lucifer in a Evil-less Heaven: How did evil arise in Lucifer if there was no evil in heaven? [Ezekiel 28:15].

Satan-An Angel That Fell: Was Satan an angel that fell? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 26-31, Luke 10:18, Revelation 12, I Timothy 3:6, John 8:44, I John 3:8].

Satan, Lucifer (Light-Bearer): Could you enlighten me as to how it is that Satan is associated to being a "light-bearer"? [Isaiah 14:12, John 8:44, I John 3:8].

Origins of Satan: Who or what is Satan? Caller always believed the traditional view that lucifer became Satan.

The First Sin: Was the first sin when Adam and Eve's ate the fruit? What about when the angels rebelled, and Satan fell?

Choosing Good over Evil: God made everything good, so why didn't Adam (or Lucifer) choose good?

Lucifer: Listened to your spiritual warfare and am listening to the section about Lucifer. Could you expound on that name, where the came from?

Satan's Beginnings: Where did satan come from? What does the Scripture say about who or what he is? [Isiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Origins of Satan: Why would God create Satan if He knew what chaos he would do on earth?

Son of the Morning: Son of the Morning, who is that? [Isaiah 14:12]

Satan was not an Angel: Satan was not an angel? What is the difference between angel and cherub? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Angels: Do angels have free will? How many angels did God create? If satan wasn't an angel, what was he?

Interpreting Ezekiel 28: Most people think Ezekiel 28 is talking about the Devil, but what do you think it is talking about?

Fall of Lucifer: Where is the Fall of Lucifer found in the Bible? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]
Unpardonable Sin: What is the unpardonable sin?

Satan's Origins: When did the idea that Lucifer became Satan start? Lucifer a Latin word. [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Satan & Music: Someone said that Satan was responsible for all the music of the earth. Is this true?

Jesus as the Morning Star: A pastor said the famous passage of Scripture in Isaiah 14 is not referring to Satan, but that it's actually talking about Jesus. Is there any validity to this? [Isaiah 14:12, 2 Peter 1:9]

Michael the Archangel: Adventists believing Jesus was Michael the Archangel. Is it heretical to believe that?
"Get Behind Me, Satan": Is Jesus talking to Peter or the devil when He said, "Get behind me, Satan!"? [Matthew 4:10, Matthew 16:23]
Pipes, Musical Instruments: What about all these pipes & musical instruments that seemed to describe Lucifer, Satan? [Ezekiel 28]

Pictures of Dragons: Is having a drawing of a dragon in your house bad since Satan is depicted as a dragon?

Ezekiel 28 King of Tyre: (Followup February 22, 2018, 9th call) Can help me understand king of Tyre or Satan in Ezekiel 28. [Ezekiel 28]

Satan in Ezekiel 28: Is it true you don't think Ezekiel 28 is talking about Satan/Lucifer? [Ezekiel 28]

Satan's Origins: Was Satan a fallen angel who had free will or was he always the devil? [Isaiah 14:12-16, Ezekiel 28:12-19, John 8:44, 1 John 3:8]
The Tester: If God made Satan the way he is, then He created evil, so how can that be? Also, if God created him to be a "tester", then why is he going to be punished for something he was designed to do?

Satan an Angel: Was Satan an angel? Satan argued with God about Job, Jesus saw him falling out of heaven, so can you just explain about Satan?

Satan-Lucifer: Who is Satan?
Sanctification: "work out your own salvation", "to do his good pleasure", salvation an on-going process? are we being saved?

Lucifer Not being Satan: Satan was in charge of angels, was a musician in heaven before his fall, how are we supposed to counter that? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12, 2 Corinthians 11:14]

God Creating Us: Why did God create us? why are we here?
Lucifer Becoming Satan: Jesus said He saw Satan fall down from heaven like lightening. [Luke 10:18]

Satan being Lucifer: You say don't believe Satan was a fallen angel, was originally Lucifer? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12, 2 Corinthians 11:3]

God Creating the Devil: Why would God create a devil to tempt us, torment us, create havoc, when he's going to be held accountable in the end?

Origins of Satan: Origins & nature of Satan being originally Lucifer. [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Lucifer Becoming Satan: Lucifer being satan. [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Lucifer the Fallen Angel: So are you saying Satan wasn't Lucifer who was a Fallen Angel? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Never Hearing the Gospel: What about people who have never heard the gospel?
Satan Being Cast out of Heaven: When did the casting Satan of Heaven occur? [Revelation 12]

Lucifer: Why was Satan called Lucifer which means, "light bearer"? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, 2 Corinthians 11:14]

Origins of Satan being Lucifer: Can you tell me what you were talking about the origins of lucifer (satan)? I missed what you were saying earlier.

God Creating Humans: Why did God create us?
Satan's Origins: Why & when was Satan created?

Lucifer turning into the Devil: Lucifer turning into Satan & the King of Babylon & King of Tyre.

Bible Interpretation of a Verse in Romans: Can you explain this Romans 8:10? [Romans 8:10]
Lucifer Becoming Satan: I don't see how Lucifer is correlated w/ Satan. [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12]

Lucifer & Satan: Is lucifer Satan?
Number of the Beast: Where do we get the number of the beast, 666?

Kings of Isaiah 14 & Ezekiel 28: I heard you talking about Satan & the kings in Ezekiel 28 & Isaiah 14 the other day, I missed one of the kings you mentioned. Will you talk about them again?

Satan being a Fallen Angel: If Satan was an angel, how could he have been a snake?

Bowing Down to People: Joseph's brothers bowing down to Joseph, or Nebuchadnezzar bowing down to Daniel, were those instances inappropriate, bowing down to them? [Genesis 42:6, Daniel 2:46]
The Prince of Persia: The Prince of Persia in Zachariah are both referred to as men & angels, that it is interchangeable. So he thinks Isaiah & Ezekiel is talking about the devil, Satan, once being Lucifer. [Zachariah 1, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Origins of Satan: Where did Satan officially come from? He was up in Heaven during the book of Job. [John 12:31, Revelation 12:9-10]
Spiritual Wickedness in High Places: What is Ephesians talking about spiritual warfare & spiritual wickedness being up in heaven in the spiritual realm? [Ephesians 6:12]
Timing of Satan's Creation: Was the Serpent Satan? Was he created after Adam & Eve were created? When were the angels created?

Satan a Fallen Angel: I have a friend telling me that Satan was Lucifer & is a fallen angel, but I can't find it anywhere in the Bible. Can you tell me where I might find it? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12:3-4]

Lucifer & the 1/3 of the Angels falling: Did Satan's Fall happen before Adam & Eve were created? [Revelation 12:4, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Satan's Fall from Heaven: Why did Satan & the fallen angels fall from heaven?

The Origins of the Devil: I heard that you don't think Lucifer became the Devil, is that true? [Isaiah 14:12, Ezekiel 28,

Lucifer Not Being Satan: Why does everyone think Lucifer is the name for the Devil? [Isaiah 14]

Anti-Christ: Does it say anywhere in the Bible where the anti-Christ is going to come from?
Lucifer & the Cherubim: Lucifer was the anointed cherubim? [Ezekiel 28]
Lucifer being a Fallen Angel: Was he the most powerful angel, even more powerful than Gabriel & Michael, or were they all on the same plane? [Ezekiel 28:12-19, Isaiah 14:12]

Satan a Fallen Angel or the Tempter: If Satan was created at the Tempter, we'd have to attribute evil to God because Satan would have no culpability? Why would God judge Satan? You couldn't really say Satan was evil then.

Satan originally being Lucifer: Caller heard that Steve doesn't think Satan was Lucifer. Is this true?

Doctrine & Teaching: What is Paul saying in 1 Timothy 4:12-16 about Teaching & Doctrine? [1 Timothy 4:12-16]
The Devil having been Lucifer: Caller wants to confirm that he heard Steve say that he doesn't believe the view that Satan was at one time the fallen angel, Lucifer?

Hell Israel: Caller thought there was a verse in Isaiah that we are only partially separated from God, & Steve references 2 Thessalonians 1:9 in answer to that. [2 Thessalonians 1:9]
Lucifer: Comments about Israel from previous calls he's heard. Every time we call Satan Lucifer he's probably laughing since calling him that would be venerating him because it means worshipping.

Calvinism: Would it be unjust for God to make a group of people who had no possibility of salvation, & throw them in hell? Isn't that the same think as you saying that God just created the devil to be a tempter & then God punish him for it? Isn't that the exact same thing?

Lucifer being the Satan (or not): Caller has always been under the impression that Satan was a fallen angel Lucifer, had never heard of another view, until he heard Steve talking about it. [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12:3-9, Luke 10:18]

Lucifer (the Devil): Lucifer fell out of Heaven after he was tempted, so does that suggest that we could be still tempted even once we get there?

Lucifer being Queer: I almost don't want to highlight this call.

King of Tyre or an Angel (Lucifer): It seems it is talking about an angel in the latter part of [Ezekiel 28].

Tertullian & Lucifer/Fallen Angel: So did Tertullian believe & come up w/ Lucifer Falling from Heaven?
Zeal, even if misguided, is good: Even though caller thinks Rusty, who's been calling in a lot lately regarding the perseverance of the saints, is wrong, at least he has enthusiasm.

Lucifer is a queer demon: We have a prophet amongst us w/ new revelation.

Satan - Lucifer: Bright & Morning Star & Day Star, is there a difference between the 2? [Revelation 22:16, Isaiah 14:12]

Satan's (Lucifer's) Pride: If Satan wasn't originally Lucifer like the traditional thought is, why did Paul warn about new converts becoming elders, lest they get pride in their heart & fall like Satan did? (1 Timothy 3:6) [1 Timothy 3:6-7, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

Lucifer as Satan: Who started first teaching that Lucifer was Satan? [Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28]

King of Tyre: Is Ezekiel 28 talking about the King of Tyre, or the Devil, like most people think it is actually referring to?

Satan an Angel: Where does it say in the Bible that Satan was originally an angel? a Cherub?

Satan being created: Why did God create Satan if He knew he was going to turn out the way he turned out?

Hebrew English Interlinear Bibles: Caller is looking for a Hebrew English Bible that has the word "Lucifer" instead of "Shining/Morning Star". Is there such a source?
1000 years in Revelation: So ifSatan has been bound up for 1,000 years, is this the millennial reign we're talking about, & is he currently bound right now? [Revelation 20:2]

Devil a Fallen Angel: If the Devil is not a Fallen Angel, then God must've had some purpose in creating him? What is the difference between temptation & testing?

Satan: How could God be mad at Satan in the Garden of Eden for tempting Eve if He created Satan to be the tester? [Genesis 3]

A Liar & a Murderer from the beginning: Wasn't Satan a created being, a good/neutral being? How did he become so evil? When did the demons join him? When it says that he was a murderer & a liar from the beginning, is that just hyperbole to prove a point about him? [John 8:44]

Apocalyptic Language: Can you explain about the apocalyptic language of the sun & moon going dark & so on? (a lot of crackling noise happening.)
Satan Falling like Lightning: Why was Jesus saying this in the first place & what was He meaing by it, Satan falling like lightning from Heaven? [Luke 10:18]

Satan being originally Lucifer: Did you say it's a misunderstanding to think that Satan was Lucifer who was a fallen angel? [Luke 10:18, Isaiah 14, Ezekiel 28, Revelation 12:7-9, 1 Timothy 3:4-5, 1 Corinthians 11]

The Devil: You didn't believe in the literalness of Satan? [Ezekiel 28, Isaiah 14]
Jesus Addresses Satan through Human Agents: Yeah, but Steve, Jesus alludes to Peter that he is Satan, but he's actually talking to Satan & not really talking to Peter. In contrast, just like there's many types of Christs behind people.
Covering Cherubs: What about the Covering Cherubs?
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