Transubstantiation

Steve and Catholic Tim Staples continue the discussion. Topic: The Eucharist (Communion, Lord's Supper).

Didn't they restrict the drinking of blood? [Acts 11:4-10].

When a catholic church member takes the host (bread) but doesn't drink the wine, is it because they are avoiding the alcohol? Do they then not believe it is really supernaturally blood?

Why is there objection to someone outside a denomination (Lutheran) taking communion with them (closed communion)? Rec: Debates with Catholic Jimmy Akin at the website. [Proverbs 18:17].

When Catholics refer to their "other" traditions when they say that Protestants only pay attention to "sola scripture" but Catholics believe in both scripture and other traditions, what are those traditions? [1 Timothy 3:2-5, Mark 7:9].

Aren't we not supposed to eat human blood? [1 John 1:9, Matthew 26:28}.

You indicated that nothing supernatural happens during the Eurcharist because miracles are typically observed, but I thought of examples in scripture where there were miracles unobservable. [I Corinthians 14, Luke 22:19-20, Acts 10:15, 1 Corinthians 11:14, Matthew 26:26-28, 1 John 1:7, Isaiah 30:20].

Do you need to have clergy present to offer or take communion? [Matthew 26:28, Isaiah 30:20, 1 Corinthians 11:24-25, Luke 22:19].

What is the right way to think about the body and blood of Jesus at the Last Supper? is it literal or symbolic? Are we in danger if we don't do it correctly, or believe about it a certain way? [1 Corinthians 11:25-26, Luke 22:18-20, John 13:1-15, Mark 14:22-25].

What is the real presence of Jesus in the ritual communion memorial? [Matthew 18:20, John 6:54-56].

Was Jesus talking about the "Lord's Supper in John 6? [John 6:53-56, John 5:24, John 6:40, John 4:14, John 7:37-39, I Corinthians11:17-34, John 11:11-14, John 4:32, John 2:19-20, John 3:4, John 6:63].

Caller disagrees with a previous caller about the "Eucharist" and presents his case.

Does this verse prove that the Eurcharist is symbolic, rather than symbolic? [John 6:57, John 4:10, 2 Samuel 23:15, I Chronicles 11:17, I Kings 22:27].

Catholic caller disagrees with Steve about Steve suggesting that the Eucharist (transubstantiation) was superstitious. [Galatians 1:6, Luke 22:19, I Corinthians 11:24-25, Mark 14:22-25].

Is it inconsistent to accept the church father's view of authorship of the books, while rejecting the church father's theological interpretations and doctrines such as, transubstantiation, etc.?

What did Jesus mean by "Eat My Body" & why did so many people leave Him as a result of Him saying this? [John 6:40, 54]

Can Steve define transubstantiation? Why does he disagree with it? How serious is he about objecting to it?

Caller who just called about communion calls back & wants to talk about the Transubstantiation of communion in the Catholic church, the bread & wine turning into the body & blood of Jesus' body. [John 6]

I was invited by a Catholic to partake in a Catholic Communion. But the problem was, they said I had to go to confession first. Should I participate?

Caller also comments about whether they believe in transubstantiation like the Catholics do.

The bread & wine turning into the body & blood of Jesus, the only way you can tell is by the way of a bell.

Does Communion connect us to Christ like the Tree of Life did?

Breaking of bread means?

Could you comment on my overwhelming sensation I experienced in the Catholic church in contrast to my experience in the Protestant church?

Transubstantiation in the Catholic church.

Do you believe that in the Eucharist actually turns into the real body and blood of Jesus?

Same with Transubstantiation, if Jesus has to still give His blood every time they take Communion, isn't that still indicating He's still on the cross?

How can I join a church if I am not sure what happens at the Eucharist, if their statement of faith is specific about it? [I Corinthians 1].

What would the ramifications and consequences being mistaken about the Eucharist?

Could you help me sort the various views of the Eucharist (Communion), and what if I can't decide? What then, would the ramifications be of perhaps being wrong? (Acts 10).

You use physical things to perform spiritual stuff so why can't we assume that about emblems for the euchiarist turning to the body & blood of Jesus?

The Catholics believe they are eating the literal body of Christ in the emblems they eat & drink? Didn't Jesus say do it in REMEMBRANCE of Him?

Commentary on eating the flesh & drinking the blood of Jesus. [John 6]

Why would Steve go against 1,500 years worth of Church Fathers saying that they were wrong about the Eucharist, not literally eating the Body & drinking the Blood of Jesus' body when you take it?

Is eating Jesus' flesh & drinking His blood literal or symbolic? Do people think about this because of the word, "in"? [John 6]

During the Eucharist, why does it matter if the wine & the bread turn into the actual blood & body of Jesus & why do people believe that happens?

Regarding transubstantiation, do they not have scriptural support in John 6? [John 6:40, 54, 63, John 2, 4, 7].

Eating the literal body & blood of Jesus, but if that's the case, shouldn't they have started gnawing on Him then?

People were "eating & drinking" Jesus body & blood before He was even crucified, so how can people think they are actually NOW eating His body & blood in the Eucharist? [John 6:50-58]

Caller is concerned about people preaching that we need to literally eat & drink the body & blood of Christ. Can Steve explain what's really going on about that? [John 6]

Is it not support for the literal body of Christ being eaten, if we parallel the body of Christ to the tree of life, and that they were to literally eat? [John 6, Revelation 21:5].

What is meant by the flesh in John 6, and how does it relate to the actual flesh of the Eucharist [John 6:63],

Catholic caller wants to challenge Steve's critique of the Catholic view of the Eucharist and the questioning of the literalness of "The Body of Christ". [John 6:53, 63, 2:9, 3:1-21, 7:37, 4:14,32, 11:11].

How can people think they are literally eating & drinking Jesus when they participate in the Eucharist? [John 6:40-65]

Re: the last Q, Steve makes an announcement that a lot of people might disagree w/ him about what he just said about Communion (or might disagree on something for that matter), & wants people to call in & say what their disagreement is on that or ANYTHING & is not saying it w/ any bravado.

What is Communion for, what are we supposed to do with it, how important is it? Why has it become so ritualistic?

Caller comments on his experience as a Catholic who had taken the Eucharist and how his experience has changed when he was saved.

Do Catholics think they are actually at the foot of the cross when they are taking communion?

Would you clarify the fulfillment of the Lord's Supper in light of the Catholic view of transubstantiation (Eucharist)? And is it a dangerous doctrine? [John 6:40, 54, 66, 5: ??? 2:19, 3:5-7,4:32, 4:16, 11:11 6:63].

How do you harmonize the Jewish restriction on eating human blood and flesh, and yet, Jesus told his disciples to drink his blood and eat His flesh? Why would He use such a distasteful analogy? [I Corinthians 11:23-25, Mark 14:22-24, Acts 10:9-16].